Discuţii politice, ca la cafenea

[sekaba]

Crimeea a fost si va ramane pamant rus, no biggie.

Cam ca Basarabia pamant romanesc. Ia incearca si spune-le asta rusilor.

[brutalistu]

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[DarthZombie]

Crimeea a fost si va ramane pamant rus, no biggie.

Cam ca Basarabia pamant romanesc. Ia incearca si spune-le asta rusilor.

Diferenta e ca Crimeea a fost a rusilor cu mult inainte ca Ucraina sa existe ca stat. Practic ei au pierdut limba aia de pamant in zapaceala post-cadere a URSS-ului.

In schimb Basarabia a fost pierduta in urma unei invazii si apoi intarite de n tratate de pace. Oricum, acolo problema e Transnistria care nici macar nu apartinea de Basarabia, asa ca aia e doar o alta galusca ruseasca. Iar populatia rusofona din zona e datorata colonizarii intense practicate de rusi in ultimii ~200 de ani, ceea ce la Crimeea nu e cazul.

[Mărar]

Un punct de vedere interesant din partea unui blogger destul de cunoscut in Rusia. Remember to turn on captions!

Asta e un fel de Mircea Badea rusesc? Aproape ca l-ai crede daca nu ti-ai da seama cate tampenii scoate pe gura.

[Waaagh!]

http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.580565

Was about damn time. A inceput.

[DreadWing]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/m ... mea-russia

[Mărar]

Cred ca am vazut urmatoarul Casus Belli in Crusader Kings:
TURKEY: under Ottoman Empire treaty with Catherine the Great if Crimea declares independence it returns to Turkey

in 1991, after the collapse of the USSR and the emergence of an independent Ukraine, Turkey has already had the formal right to reclaim Crimea.

“However, the Turkish government, then led by Turgut Ozal, given the geopolitical changes in northern Turkey and changes in the general world economic situation, did not defend that position. Turkey limited itself to demanding that the rights of Crimean Tatars, living as a minority in Crimea, be restored,”

[Mărar]

http://www.theatlantic.com/internationa ... er/284489/

All sides in the Crimean crisis are invoking the Third Reich. Why?

[Mărar]

Russia ready to annex Moldova region, Nato commander claims

Philip Breedlove says large force on eastern border of Ukraine could easily move into Trans-Dniester if the decision was made

Nu prea merita citit articolul, e o prostie speculativa. Interesant insa ce a ajuns sa apara in media "respectabila" in ultima vreme. Sau na, poate urmeaza un referendum transnistrian

[DarthZombie]

Pai nu si trimisesera Dumei de stat rusesti cererea de a deveni teritoriu rusesc? Oricum, nu prea imi dau seama cum ar putea deveni Transnistria parte a Rusiei cata vreme e toata Ucraina intre cele doua. Din partea mea Transnistria e o galusca ruseasca si cu cat scapa Republica Moldova de ei, cu atat mai bine.

[Waaagh!]

Oricum, nu prea imi dau seama cum ar putea deveni Transnistria parte a Rusiei cata vreme e toata Ucraina intre cele doua.

Pfff, de parca aia-i problema.

Anyhow, vad ca astia din psd au luat prea multa radiatie cosmica la creier. La cat l-au scos pe geoana din grota in ultima vreme, cred o sa-l propuna presedinte.

[zme-ul]

situatia asta cu Crimea s-ar putea sa excaladeze
acum cateza zile am fost chemat iarasi la CMJ (Centrul Militar Judetean, pt cei in necunostinta) pt a reactuazila ordinul de chemare la mobilizare slash razboi
initial am chemat si prin Ianuarie, dar acum, termenul de prezenta a fost scurtat la 18 ore

18 ore e frectie la picior de lemn, tinand cont ca sovieticii sunt la ~400Km de noi

[reV]

Rusia a zburat din G8

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/24/polit ... rope-trip/

Get yo rifles ready!

[zme-ul]

trupele rusesti se maseaza la noua granita dintre Crimea si Ucraina
traba e cat se poate de groasa, si ne trezim maine-poimaine in razboi cu sovieticii

A senior military academic is warning Europe is staring down the barrel of its biggest war since 1945. And it could start in days, as Russian forces mass on the border with Ukraine — apparently poised to invade.
The commander of NATO forces in Europe visited the White House overnight to voice his alarm at Moscow’s massive military build-up facing eastern Ukraine — on the other side of the embattled country to the already-annexed Crimean peninsula.
Many other military and political voices are suddenly expressing the same fears.
“By the end of the weekend, Europe’s biggest war since 1945 will have begun or Putin will have started to send the troops on the border home,” declared Professor of the Naval War College at Boston University, John Schindler.
And he is not the only academic voicing this concern.
The troops are reportedly not average Russian conscripts. New intelligence reveals the mechanised infantry units and their tanks to be among the best and most highly trained the Russian Federation has — diverted from their Moscow barracks to their tents and revetments overlooking Ukraine.
Also early this morning Australia time, a group of masked right wing ultra-nationalists began a demonstration inside and out of the Ukraine’s main parliament building - calling for the sacking of the police minister after one of their leaders was shot dead.

http://www.news.com.au/world/a-rapid-ru ... 6867240935

US President Barack Obama has urged Russia to "move back its troops" on Ukraine's border and lower tensions.

Russia is believed to have massed a force of several thousand troops close to Ukraine's eastern frontier.

Mr Obama told CBS News it may "be an effort to intimidate Ukraine, or it may be that [Russia has] additional plans."

Meanwhile, a Russian security official has said intelligence measures are being stepped up to counter Western threats to Moscow's influence.

Russia annexed the Crimea peninsula from Ukraine after voters in the

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26787051

Comment Press and Information Department MFA of Russia on the situation around minorities living in Ukraine


686-28-03-2014

In relation to the current situation in Ukraine would like to draw attention to the following circumstances, clearly describing the current situation there after the February 22 coup.
Total disregard for the interests of the Russian-speaking citizens of Ukraine - this is not news, and permanent reality. The latest evidence of this - the suspension of broadcasting four major Russian TV channels.
Less visible, but no less dramatic is the situation around living in Ukraine of ethnic Germans, Czechs, Hungarians and other minorities. They are concerned about the unstable political situation in the country and seriously fear for their lives, directly confronted with the excesses that continue to create homegrown fascists and ultra-nationalists. Because of this, recently recorded a significant increase in the number of persons wishing to either temporarily or permanently leave their historic homeland. More and more people are seeking asylum in Ukraine and Russia.
We believe that the fate of these people should not pass unnoticed by the influential international organizations, including UN, OSCE, Council of Europe, which should in fact clearly demonstrate their willingness to defend their rights. Expect from international human rights bodies and institutions fundamental assumptions regarding gross violations of human rights, including minority rights, by "the new Ukrainian authorities."

http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... 48&act=url

[Waaagh!]

Nu stiu de ce ma tot roade gindul ca daca am transforma Asia intr-un desert radioactiv, lumea ar deveni subit un loc mult mai vesel si luminos. No glow in the dark jokes plox.

[DarthZombie]

Vezi ca Asia incepe dupa Urali

[Stokkolm]

Inca nu am vazut nici o intentie de razboi din partea Rusiei. In schimb Nato si EU nu mai stiu sa vorbeasca despre altceva.

[Waaagh!]

Neah, doar si-au scos tancurile pe sosele ca sa nu le prinda rugina in hangare.

[sekaba]

Inca nu am vazut nici o intentie de razboi din partea Rusiei. In schimb Nato si EU nu mai stiu sa vorbeasca despre altceva.

Have you even met Russia?

[zme-ul]

Inca nu am vazut nici o intentie de razboi din partea Rusiei

d'aia a refacut MAPNu ordinele de chemare la mobilizare/razboi la nici 2 luni de la cel vechi .. ca sa se afle in treaba, nu ca am fi in cacat pana'n gat
sa inteleg ca astepti sa cada bombele sovietice peste noi, numai atunci esti convins

da' poate nici atunci, ca deh .. o fi o eroare in matrice


Russia Launches Nuclear-War Drill, Saying It Was Long Scheduled