Donald Trump

[McWilliams]

Fratele meu alb, locuitul in US nu este o certificare a unui document doveditor ca ai dreptul sa locuiesti acolo. Observi cum toate povestile din mass-media incep cu "he/she lived in the US for X years before..." in loc sa inceapa cu "he/she is a US citizen/has a greencard holder/has a Romanian/UK/Canadian etc. passport/is officially certified as a refugee etc."? Si tiganii romani traiesc in Franta de Nshpe ani, pe blat, desi scrie Strehaia pe CIul lor. Ocazional, francezii ni-i mai trimit pachet. Si asta desi si noi, si ei suntem in UE. Pe cand US si altii, nu-s. Nu vad pe nimeni sa se inflameze daca s-ar interzice intrarea tiganilor in tara X. Altfel decat daca ar fi confundati cu tigani sau chiar ar fi tigani.

[vulp]

E printre cei mai buni jucatori [DOTA] din lume in momentul de fata,

[sebas]

E printre cei mai buni jucatori [DOTA] din lume in momentul de fata,

http://www.esportsearnings.com/players/ ... aliwi-omar

[vulp]

E printre cei mai buni jucatori [DOTA] din lume in momentul de fata,

http://www.esportsearnings.com/players/ ... aliwi-omar

mersi dar prefer skillurile transferabile

[ola small dickie]

Independent Movie Theatres Nationwide Will Screen ‘1984’ to Protest Donald Trump

http://www.indiewire.com/2017/02/indepe ... 201784459/

[DarthZombie]

Cam trist ca sunt atatia care se lauda ca au citit 1984 si dovedesc ca n-au inteles nimica atunci cand incearca sa traga paralele cu Trump.

[zme-ul]

voi chiar dezbateti daca Trump e sau nu tampit?!
va doare mintea? luati un Paracetamol Sinus

[lurker]

[vulp]

Trump Administration Strips Funding For Illegal Aliens, Reallocates Money to Victims of Their Crimes

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavl ... s-n2288762

[vulp]

*sigh*

[DarthZombie]

phpBB [video]

Gata oameni buni, fiti pregatiti pentru o alianta SUA-Rusia si distrugerea Nato la mainile acestui regim nazist. Dumnezeu sa ne apere!

[Stokkolm]

WTF 4:06, am crezut ca mi-au hacuit rusii computerul

[DarthZombie]

Da, nu stiu care-i faza, mai e un moment similar mai incolo.

[McWilliams]

Nu vreau sa fac pe ola in aceasta discutie, dar... acest discurs pare mai degraba SF decat realitate. Discursul in sine este echilibrat, politicos fata de cei prezenti, bine structurat, cu doua-trei teme pe care se vorbeste apasat, insa marea mea problema cu el este fiecare angajament care incepe cu "On behalf of President Trump...". Pentru ca este SF sa ti-l imaginezi pe Trump gandind asta, daramite expunand asta intr-un mod articulat.

[ola small dickie]

Oficiali SUA: Sunt informatii care sugereaza legaturi intre echipa lui Trump si Rusia in campania prezidentiala

http://www.hotnews.ro/stiri-internation ... linton.htm

shuby duby da russia cu le pen, rusia cu brexit, rusia cu trump. ce au in comun toate aceste aspecte? sunt toate anti uniunea europeana. well shubby duby da

[Waaagh!]

Si-s toate scrise de vreo 20 de ani, cu liniutza, in carticica aia a lui Dughin de care rade lumea.

[ola small dickie]

unii rad si astazi, de trump hahaha, de brexit hahahah, de le pen hahahaha

altii, si mai inteligenti rad si de UE, hahaha, si de NATO..hahah . ce mai sunt bre UE si NATO? hahaha cui ii mai folosesc? hahaha

oare turcilor inteligenti le mai vine sa rada acum avand in vedere cum a ajuns sa fie condusa tara lor, ca traiesc in dictatura? hahaha nu.

[sebas]

Monsieur Putin avez-vous un peu plus... comment dire.. des leaks??

[Ferrrrrrrrrdinand]

Un fel de copypasta doar ca dau quote doar la concluzii (e foarte lung postul si are cateva poze misto)

What country is likely to experience a coup in the coming years?

La care raspunde USA si face o comparatie intre cazul Vargas in Brazilia cu ce se intampla acum in SUA

In this analysis of mine it does not matter at all if Trump is a crook or a good guy. That’s not the issue. In fact, even assuming that he is the most evil person in the entire world, plans of ditching him at any cost are a conspiracy against democracy, that is, golpist ideology of the type that the USA used to sow elsewhere to undermine legitimate presidents, like Vargas above, but others too.

The way Trump has been dealt with suggests that “all options are on the table” as to either prevent him from taking office, blackmailing him into following “the line”, removing him from office either legally or “legally”, or even killing him as the last resort, if all else fails.

It is impossible to predict exactly how and when a golpe may happen in the USA, but the current context already points to an erosion of democracy and the rising support for golpist ideology. So, we can’t preclude the possibility of a golpe in the USA, though probably of the type that many people will argue that it’s not one.

Cititi tot postul

L.E: Acelasi autor, intrebare similara aici

Spoiler:

So we reach the conclusion. Are the USA being set up for a coup? The only answer I can give is that elections are considered “obsolete” by the “markets”. In fact this is so transparent that Trump’s ditching of the TTIP may be the reason behind an eventual coup, if it happens. That treaty included provisions by which multinational corporations could sue national governments (at an American court) for measures that reduced their profits, and these lawsuits could result in taking of national assets or confiscation of payments to compensate for these losses. The possibility of abuse was so great that only under threat of atomic bombing an honest foreign government would agree to sing this. Such mechanisms were included in the TTIP so that the will of the people (i.e. “democracy”) could not change the predictability of business.

In a global world, multinational corporations have become stronger than most governments and whoever opposes them faces the risk of being impeached. The only thing that surprises me is that the USA may have now a president that is rowing against the tide of globalism, threatening the plans of those multinational corporations, which has brought the USA under the spotlight, and may mean that these corporations will set up the USA for a coup, the same way they did to Latin American governments who wanted to implement measures for the benefit of their own peoples.

Get your cyberpunk glasses on

Altul:Should anti-Trump protestors focus on issues rather than the man?

Spoiler:

Problem is that this has always happened elsewhere. Destabilisation of democratically elected government is a game the US secret services have been doing only abroad (Chile ’73, Brazil ’64, Ukraine ’14, Honduras ’10, Brazil ’16, Paraguay ’12). It is startling to see the same moves happening inside the USA for the first time.

What Trump protesters are doing, when they claim for the replacement of Donald Trump or his government measures being blocked by congress is actually undermine American democracy even more.

A two party system is already a weak form of democracy. A two-party system is only one-step away from a one-party system. Everybody knows that in a two-party system people don’t really have a fair choice. When people use the limited choice they have and vote into office a candidate that’s outside the tolerated spectrum (either to the left or the right) and this candidate is de-legitimised by mass protests, the most probable outcome is not an improvement of democracy, but a tightening of the control of the electoral process to stop “outsiders” from being elected again.

Unfortunately, for the USA and for the World, there’s no safe way out of the woods. Leaving Trump alone to pursue his agenda (which is a monstrous one) means that lots of evil things will be done, fascistoid ideologies will be normalised and worldwide politics will be taking a turn to the right, like in the interwar period. Eerie. On the other hand, protesting Trump successfully will legitimise the parties in their ambition to have a fuller control of the electoral process, which means that might be no other Trump in the future, but surely no other Bernie as well. And since the general political orientation of the country might turn more to the right in the next years, we risk the normalisation of an even more oligarchic, conservative and monolithic two-party system. Democracy kaput.

However, it is poet’s justice to see the people of the USA reaping the fruits their government has been sowing elsewhere in the world for so many years. For a long time the majority of the American population washed their hands saying, or pretending, that nothing of that was done in their name, though they benefited from it anyway. While the educated, polite, progressive and generally nice middle-class Americans tried to isolate themselves from infamous “operations” to secure America’s commercial interests, such operations were not only killing progress (and politeness) abroad, but also inculcating these ideas on generation upon generation of secret services agents, army officials, state department clerks, foreign office diplomats and the like. These people were, for decades, taught to be ruthless and cruel against other nations’ national aspirations and desire for greater independence and self-reliance. What could prevent them from being ruthless and cruel against their own people when it is known that, after enough generations, a privileged class tends to think of itself as a separate entity? Didn’t the gated communities warn you they were becoming a type of gentry?

This is the danger of the two-party system becoming tighter. It will be run by a class of people who has been learning to deal brutally with the “lesser” ones. What can happen if they feel threatened by the American people like they felt threatened by foreign brown people?

[joonior_bmf]

:^)